Talk:San Jose State University

The content of San José State Alma Mater was merged into San Jose State University on 7 December 2023. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

San José State Alma Mater was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 4 August 2023 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into San Jose State University. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

Not moved, 14 October 2022, to San José State University, see discussion.
Not moved, 22 December 2024, to San Jose State, see discussion.

Requested move 13 January 2023

San Jose State University → San José State University

The official name of the institution is San José State University (with diacritical mark included), and has been this way now for at least a decade. Many page-one Google search returns for "San Jose State University" include the diacritical mark. These search returns include the university's official website, all of the university's official social media feeds, the latest USNWR college rankings and Glassdoor. ESPN also includes the diacritical mark in all of its SJSU athletics coverage.

Why are we resisting referring to SJSU correctly and accurately? A Wiki page move here helps to clear the air and basically set the record state. Let Wikipedia lead by example as any legitimate encyclopedic enterprise should.

In Wiki's own published essay on this topic, it states: "Particular care is taken to spell personal names correctly."

Moreover, the essay states: "Accuracy (the lack of diacritics in foreign names is considered a grammatical error or misspelling by several reliable sources), consistency (following the "house style" instead of case-by-case use of the most common spelling), harmlessness (the diacriticless spelling is deducible from the proper noun, but not vice versa), pronunciation guidance, informativeness (an encyclopedia's primary purpose is to educate the readers by providing accurate, complete and trustworthy information) and respect (particularly with living people, knowingly misspelling a name could be both unencyclopedic and unethical)."

Can we put this to a vote again, please? Let's do the right thing here.

Londonfifo (talk) 04:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:DIACRITICAL MARKS Again, there is no harm in including the diacritic here since the old, incorrect spelling is easily deduced from the newer, correct spelling. Conversely, and more importantly, the correct spelling that includes the diacritic cannot easily be deduced from the old, incorrect spelling. Above all, Wikipedia is supposed to reflect current, accurate information; not outdated, inaccurate information. The official name of the university is San José State University and has been for years. Let's get this right per Wiki's own guidelines. Londonfifo (talk) 05:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:DIACRITICAL MARKS: For the same reasons stated by @Londonfifo SammySpartan (talk) 22:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

— Relisting. SammySpartan (talk) 23:50, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Wikipedia prefers the common name used by most independent reliable sources, not the official name. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 13:28, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 December 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved per WP:SNOW, considered in the context of the 100+ RMs proposed at once by this user. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:59, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

San Jose State University → San Jose State – WP:COMMONNAME. Theparties (talk) 11:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The full name provides a WP:TITLECON consistent naming convention across all articles on universities and colleges in the United States. Many reliable sources like Forbes and US News and World Report still use the full name. The OP has also made numerous individual RMs on this same issue like this one, which may violate WP:ACROTITLE or use a shorter common name that is rarely used outside a sports/athletic context. Better to stick to the status quo. Zzyzx11 (talk) 14:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as unnecessary, unwise, and confusing for readers. ElKevbo (talk) 15:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, per the comments of Zzyzx11. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 16:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, per above. --Coolcaesar (talk) 18:57, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

More citations needed

@SammySpartan: Why was the {{more citations needed}} (MCN) tag removed? Several paragraphs throughout the article are lacking in citations, instead of adding ^{[citation needed]} tags ten times over and "tag-bombing" the article, the MCN tag works fine. — ^EF⁵ 16:16, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like adding the MCN tag to the whole article is a bit too broad of a use case for it, especially when there are significant portions of the article that have proper citations, and similarly sized University articles have a similar number of citations. I agree with you that there are sentences that are lacking citations, but in that case either the MCN tag should be applied to specific sections, or the ^{[citation needed]} tag should be added to the offending sentences, even if you do have to add it ten times over. SammySpartan (talk) 22:43, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

SammySpartan,

Done. I've added CN tags. — ^EF⁵ 16:28, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding Aftab Iqbal in notable alumni

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftab_Iqbal, ftab IqbalA is a renowned name in South Asian comedy, and TV host, kindly don't undo his addition into notable alumni of SJSU, as he studied there Masterkaihewho (talk) 12:14, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This article is not meant to have a comprehensive listing of all notable alumni, just the most noteworthy to give readers a sense of the diversity of alumni and areas of particular strength and interest. This individual doesn't seem to be noteworthy enough to include in this article especially since you included a link Patreon as a source which is a low quality source at best. ElKevbo (talk) 12:24, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

yes but he is famous in south asia https://www.prideofpakistan.com/who-is-who-detail/Aftab-Iqbal/108

https://www.gulf-times.com/story/504242/time-for-political-satire Masterkaihewho (talk) 13:30, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with ElKevbo. Aftab Iqbal is not notable – does not meet requirements of WP:LISTPEOPLE or meet WP:LISTCRITERIA, has no WP:SIGCOV. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 13:34, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed as well. Just add him to the SJSU alumni category and to List of San Jose State University people. That is sufficient. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 14:33, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. He definitely is not suitable for List of San Jose State University people or alumni per Wikipedia standards. As I stated, before, Aftab Iqbal clearly does not meet requirements of WP:LISTPEOPLE or meet WP:LISTCRITERIA, has no WP:SIGCOV. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 15:00, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cristiano Tomás, what Wikipedia precepts would Aftab Iqbal meet for inclusion since he's is insufficiently notable and he only received a history diploma, and not a degree, from San Jose. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 04:09, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If he didnt even get a degree, this is a nonstarter in my opinion. But in terms of notability, he's hosted a string of Urdu/Punjabi TV shows - he's no superstar but I hesitate to say he's not notable at all. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 13:15, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed that he's not notable. SammySpartan (talk) 15:31, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How-to

Would someone either fix the link for San Jose State University or explain how to change it? It says (incorrectly) "Template for California Historical Landmarks in Santa Clara County." Efficacity (talk) 23:47, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Efficacity. Maybe other editors understand and can help, but I would need more information including where exactly this problematical link is and in what Wikipedia article. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 04:29, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For editors: Efficacity informs that for the article he refers to when you hover over the words, San Jose State University, the wrong information appears. I can't get it to do that with either Mobile view or Desktop. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 00:43, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]